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Ciao a tutti,

Still got no time for races but took my Testi to the "Piccoli Bastardi" to Plaino near Udine and was lucky to see al lot of most beautiful Mopeds and to meet many likeable guys. Enjoyed the "Raduno a Plaino" with my Testi. Beautiful Weekend. Grazie to the guys of "Piccoli Bastardi"

Heinz

Hallo Maurizio, Ciao Luca.

I don't really care about if the Frame is a Roar or a Minarelli Imitation/copy. In my new FIM-papers the frame-manufactrer is empty. All I wanted was to have a frame in specifications before 1983 for my watercooled p6-engine. If anybody asks me what bike am I riding - it simle is a Minarelli, as it is my PCB.

@Luca

Yes I remember that I had to solve the Problem with the chain line. First I thought that there would be enough space between chain and the pivot of the swingarm when sitting on the bike. But with a chainring of 35 teeth or less the chain touched the pivot. So I made new Mounts for the engine. The engine is now mounted 15 mm higher than it was and it is perfect. To protect the pivon I additionally made a ring of polycarbonate which I put un the Pivot before mounting ithe axle. On the pics you will see the Frame unpainted with original mountings, the Frame sprayed with new mountings and the "protector"

Hope the iformation was helpful

Best regards and Servus from Kritzendorf

Heinz

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Ciao Luca,

Sì, ricordo che dovevo risolvere il problema con la catena. Per prima cosa ho pensato che ci sarebbe stato abbastanza spazio tra la catena e il perno del forcellone quando si è seduti sulla bici. Ma con una corona di 35 denti o meno la catena ha toccato il perno. Quindi ho creato nuovi supporti per il motore. Il motore ora è montato 15 mm più alto di quello che era ed è perfetto. Per proteggere il pivon ho anche realizzato un anello di policarbonato che ho messo un Pivot prima di montarlo sull'asse. Sulle immagini vedrete la cornice non verniciata con i supporti originali, la cornice spruzzata con nuovi supporti e il "protettore"

Spero che la iformation sia stata utile

Cordiali saluti e Servus di Kritzendorf

Heinz

Hello Luca,

Your bike - and mine too - are replicas of the 1979 - 1981 bike with the short swingarm and the later fairing.

There are two optical differences to the original frame: one strut is missing - see at the pic - and the swingarm of the replica has a difference steel-profile. But the replica is quite similar to the original - but it is not an original! If you look to our friends in Holland or Germany - most of the fast Kreidlers are replicas and some are so near to the originals that even real experts have problems to identify.

The bike Ascareggi used in the 1982/1983 season was quite different and due to the new Frame he had a new tank and seat - easy to recognize. The bike Ascareggi uses in the historical Events is the bike of 1980/1981. I had a lot of Pictures taken at different Grand-Prix-races and Italian championship-races between 1976 and 1990. But when my Office was destroyed by fire in 1999 all pictures and race-programms and literature were also destroyed. But I remember very well the 50cc Minarelli of Ascareggi - I loved it from the first sight. The bike and the engine looked so cleaned up, far away of improvisation.

Enjoy your bike

Ciao and servus from Austria

Heinz

Original Frame from 1980



My bike without fairing


preparation for the next race


new tires






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Ciao Luca,

La tua bici - e anche la mia - sono repliche della bici del 1979 - 1981 con il forcellone corto e la carenatura posteriore.

Ci sono due differenze ottiche rispetto al telaio originale: manca un puntone - guarda l'immagine - e il forcellone della replica ha un profilo in acciaio diverso. Ma la replica è abbastanza simile all'originale - ma non è un originale! Se guardi ai nostri amici in Olanda o in Germania, la maggior parte dei Kreidler veloci sono repliche e alcuni sono così vicini agli originali che persino i veri esperti hanno problemi da identificare.

La bici Ascareggi usata nella stagione 1982/1983 era abbastanza diversa e grazie al nuovo telaio aveva un nuovo serbatoio e sedile - facile da riconoscere. La bici che Ascareggi utilizza negli Eventi storici è la moto del 1980/1981. Ho fatto un sacco di foto scattate in diverse gare del Grand Prix e gare di campionato italiane tra il 1976 e il 1990. Ma quando il mio ufficio è stato distrutto da un incendio nel 1999 sono state distrutte anche tutte le foto, i programmi di gara e la letteratura. Ma ricordo molto bene la 50cc Minarelli di Ascareggi - l'ho adorato fin dal primo sguardo. La moto e il motore erano così puliti, lontani dall'improvvisazione.

Goditi la tua bici

Ciao e servus dall'Austria

Heinz

Hello XLR8
As I always loved 50 cc racing and the Italian bikes I eventually can reassure you with following information.
The bile you are going to build is a replica of Ascareggi’s 50cc Minarelli he entered in the European Championship from 1979 up to 1981(in 1979 with another fairing) In this time he shortened his swingarm for 40 mm to get better performance. For the 1982 season Jan Thiel – he worked on the 125 GP-bike – build a new frame for Ascareggi’s Minarelli.
After the death of Sig. Minarelli Garelli bought all the racing stuff of the 125 class but not the 50cc bike. Ascareggi rode a 125 MBA in 1983 and started at a single race in the 50cc class (Imola). The rest of the story is common knowledge . . . ROAR build frames as the newer Minarelli and with the little GP-engine build up with 80cc. The frame you bought from Lemotorsport is a replica of the first Minarelli-Frame. It is beautiful and as you can see on the pics – I have the same, bought in Italy some years ago and sprayed it in Minarelli-Colours.
Enjoy it!
Best regards and Servus from Austria
Heinz

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Come ho sempre amato le gare da 50 cc e le bici italiane, alla fine posso rassicurarti con le seguenti informazioni.
La bile che stai per costruire è una replica della Minarelli 50cc di Ascareggi, entrato nel campionato europeo dal 1979 al 1981 (nel 1979 con un'altra carenatura). In questo periodo accorciava il suo forcellone per 40 mm per ottenere prestazioni migliori. Per la stagione 1982 Jan Thiel - ha lavorato alla 125 GP-bike - costruirà una nuova montatura per la Minarelli di Ascareggi.
Dopo la morte di Sig. Minarelli Garelli ha acquistato tutto il materiale da gara della classe 125 ma non la moto 50cc. Ascareggi ha guidato un 125 MBA nel 1983 e ha iniziato una gara singola nella classe 50cc (Imola). Il resto della storia è conoscenza comune. . . Le montature ROAR come la nuova Minarelli e con il piccolo motore GP si accumulano con 80cc. Il telaio che hai acquistato da Lemotorsport è una replica del primo telaio Minarelli. È bellissimo e come puoi vedere sulle foto - ho lo stesso, comprato in Italia alcuni anni fa.
Divertirsi!

I migliori saluti e Servus from Austria
Heinz

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Ascareggi's Minarelli 1979/1980


Ascareggi's Minarelli 1980/1981


Ascareggi's Minarelli 1982/83

Hello Maurizio,

Yes, I did start at 2 historic Events in Tschechoslovakia - two hill climb races. In Olomouc I had the fastest time of all classes but was disqualified because the average speed was limited at 50 km/h. But we had a lot of fun and the tiny Minarelli runs nearly perfectly. I also had my old 80cc PCB-Minarelli at the start - it too runs perfectly with a new exhaust which I made during the winter.

I'm looking forward to take the Minarellis to events in Italy - but at the moment there is a lot of work to do in my office. There is a hill climb race in Landshaag today and I thougt about to start - but no way to do so because of too little time. It will be better from mid-summer on and I am willing to enjoy my days at some races - maybe in Italy too. I will let you know!

Best regards and Servus from Graz

Heinz

Thank You!!

I' m so happy to drive my old Testi again after so many years! I have to show you a pic from 1977 showing me on the Testi (with fairing). I was 17 years of age - and, oh god - look at my hair!!

My friends: on the left a Gilera Trial, on the right a Yamaha FS1 - but the Testi was the fastetst of all.

Ciao and Servus from Austria

Heinz

Hello!

As my son got his driver`s licence now he drives my car round the block to meet friends. I am to have to drive the Testi - and am glad to have to!!!


Ready for new adventures after 42 years . . . .

Ciao and servus from Austria

Heinz

Hello Mabarda,

how are you? Are there news about your Minarelli? Did you allready spray the frame/fairing? I'm looking forward to see some new pics of your bike . . . .

best regards

Heinz

Hello to all of you,

my tiny Minarelli is ready to race.




@ Mabarda: What did happen to your bike during the last two month??

Best regards and Servus from Austria

Heinz

Hello Maurizio,

thank you for the Information . . the sprocket guard "Finne" in German, has been needed in Austria since 2015, to fit a red light would not be a problem at all. The historical registration form is an Austrian Problem . . . . I will also need it to race in Tschechoslovakia. There are more and more historical bikes here in Austria and all the drivers have the same Problem . . . . But I do thank you very much for your offer to help.

Hello Mabarda,

i'm looking forward to hear from your first test run . . . . . . and see more pics of your bike.

Best regards

Heinz

Hello Maurizio,

thank you very much for your offer to help me with bureaucratic procedures. That is very kind and will surely help me a lot . . . . . . I do have an international license but what we do not have in Austria is a Kind of vehicle papers - but I'm working on it with the Austrian OSK to create a kind of official certification paper for historic bikes.

What I do not know ist if there are special technical specifications in Italy - my bike is buildt up to German specifications.

I'm looking forward to be part of some happenings in Italy as at Adria Raceway (which I know quite well).

Hello Mabarda

here some pics as I transformed my wheels to disc brake . . .

best regards and servus from Austria

Heinz

Ciao,

I see, you are going to transform the rear Kawasaki wheel from drum-brake to a disc-brake - I made the same thing - I also modified the left side of the rim so that I can use the same Grimeca sprockets which I have on my PCB and the Testi Champion my boy is drivin'.

Heinz

Ciao "Mabarda",

Thank you , yes, it's a beautiful bike and performing quite well. You are doing a great job with your Minarelli. It is nearls ready for spraying, in't it? Hope to manage to start at some hill climb races in Italy next year as I did with my Steyr Puch 650 years ago - we always had lots of fun.

Ciao Heinz

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Ciao a tutti

Here some pics of my Minarelli 50 GP - replica which I bought near Pisa on my way back from hollydays three years ago. The wheels and the engine and some other parts were missing other parts had to be replaced . . . but it's ready to race now. We don't have many of historic races here in Austria - but it isn't much to far to Italy . . . .

Best regards and servus from Austria

Heinz

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Hello Malanca70,

thank you for your positive Response. The first pictur schows the frame when it came back to light after 36 years in my cellar. It only needed some water and a lot of shampoo, that was the "Restoration". It was not really a lot of work to do, I had only to undo some modifications I made when I rode the bike in the 70ies. Here a pic before restoration.

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I had only to change the fairing, the footrests and exhaust and some other little things, service the Brakes and put all parts together. Ready.

Ciao und Servus from Austria

Heinz

Edited by pucherner - 20/10/2015, 08:08